And I bet you have, too. Joined Apr 15, 2020 Messages 2. Dec 26, 2019 #1 Which cartridge is better for long range deer/ elk hunting? The powder capacity of the new .28 Nosler is virtually the same as that of the 6.5 STW, .26 Nosler, and 7mm STW. Perhaps in another 50 years, the name Nosler will be recognizable the same way Remington and Winchester are today. Brain cells become oxygen starved and stop doing their job. Trajectory (200 yd Zero with 180 gr. They share a maximum body diameter of 0.550 inch. By Ron Spomer. As mentioned above, the Nosler line now boasts six different calibers. Also, when did Nosler come out with a 27 Nosler? and instead recommends the 30-28 nosler, 300 norma and improved, and 300 PRC stating that each has 75% less throat erosion than the 28 nosler and with essentially identical ballistics. This whitetail buck took two 150-grain 300 Winchester Magnum slugs to the chest from less than 60 yards without falling over. The 7LRM is what I shoot, and it occupies a nice happy medium ground between the 280AI and the 28 nosler. .28 Nosler; NOTE: .26 Nosler and .28 Nosler are the only cross-compatible Nosler chamberings. Thank you . The 30 I think just came out not to long ago compared to the 26. 6.5mm (.264) caliber bullets, and is capable of shooting the Nosler 129 grain, AccuBond Long Range bullet at a blazing 3400 fps out of the muzzle. minimize drop and wind deflection. I know of the 26 & 28 Nosler? The 280AI is going to run around 68gr of water. ratings lose much energy to drag. A standard-length action is used for the .26, .28, .30, .33 Nosler and .300 Winchester Magnum. Terminal performance and ballistic performance are mainly products of the bullet. Think long and hard about bullets. Those are insignificant differences in cases of such large capacities. The Nosler has the power to remain flatter at the longest distances, while the Creedmoor is a good combination of power and light recoil, which is favored by some shooters. After that trip, he set about making a hunting bullet that would perform well every time, regardless of the game or shot angle. Well, i was leaning towards the 28 Nosler, but now I'm seriously considering the 7mm RM. _____ "Home of the free because of the Brave " Top . They really don't. 7 mag Hornady. Joined Sep 23, 2016 Messages 194 Location Lyons, CO . Joined: Aug 2005. But the brain can function without fresh blood/oxygen for several seconds. More Hunting. Hi RonI have a question concerning 3 cartridges. The .26 Nosler is pushing the same bullet out of my custom rifle on a Remington 700 action with a 26” Lilga barrel at 3,650 feet per second. Rebating the rim to 0.534 inch simplifies the production of rifle bolts since the rims of Holland & Holland-style belted magnums, such as the 7mm Remington … Nosler Liberty 48 28 Nosler 26" Bonecollector Veteran member. That is the velocity difference apparently according to Noslers load data. My dad’s rifle likes to be shot pretty clean, with a thorough copper cleaning each time it’s scrubbed. Zeroed at 350 yards, the .26 Nosler has a Point Blank Range of 0-415 yards. Coues Country. Originally designed for hunting. Nosler created its new .28 by merely necking up last year’s .26 Nosler case, but that case started from the 7mm RUM case, which is itself a derivative of the .404 Jeffery, one of those fat-bodied British dangerous-game rounds from the early years of the smokeless powder era. Hunting Giant Alaska Black Bears with Old-School Recurve Bows and Sidelocks. Despite all this powder volume, reloading guides all indicate the 7mm RUM tops out at around 3,150 fps with a 26-inch barrel, slightly slower than the.28 Nosler. are interesting, but hardly science. Typically a Barnes TTSX one or two steps down in weight from an equal cup-and-core, lead-filled bullet will penetrate as well or better. This will be for shooting mono-metal bullets mostly for elk hunting. Just download the app and search Ron Spomer Outdoors. Either round should be capable of pushing a … All of this is quite clinical, some might say morbid, but that's reality. Survival. February 26, 2020. It is based on the non-belted .26 Nosler case (itself based on a cut-down Remington Ultra Mag case) necked-up to accept 7mm (.284") bullets. Gobears16 Sergeant of the Hide. The old 7mm Rem. This clearly shows how higher muzzle velocity and bullet B.C. Of course the bigger recoil contributor is bullet mass. Nosler offers a conversion to convert common .223 rifles such as AR-15 models to accept 22 Nosler while still allowing them to retain the use of their .223 bolt carrier group. Notice how its much faster muzzle velocity enables it to shoot flatter. The 7mm platform and the 28 Nosler specifically have the power and accuracy to take down large game animals at distances of over 500 yards. The round delivers amazing power downrange (as much velocity at 400 yards as the .260 Remington produces at the muzzle) and is extremely accurate at long range. Another new 7mm is the impressive 28 Nosler. Don't think of the 28 nosler as some new thing... just think of it as what it is: Nosler's version of a 7RUM. But the animal is "out of it" when blood pressure drops to a minimum functioning level. Perhaps the two most popular are the 26 Nosler and 28 Nosler. Mag., the new .28 Nosler, and the over-the-top 7mm RUM—a shoot-off to find the best. Distance is also a major factor when it comes to both of these rounds versus the competition. The 22 Nosler delivers 30% more energy and nearly 300 more feet per second than .223 Remington/5.56mm NATO ammunition. It is based on the non-belted.26 Nosler case (itself based on a cut-down Remington Ultra Mag case) necked-up to accept 7mm (.284") bullets. November 25, 2019. Talley one-piece rings secured the Leupold VXIII scope to the 5-pound rifle. Hunting. AccuBond) Trajectory (with 180 gr. All other Nosler rounds are based on non-compatible cases. Thread starter Mykeys; Start date Dec 26, 2019; Forums. Zeroed at 350 yards, the 26 Nosler® has a Point Blank Range of 0-415 yards. Thinking about either the Christensen arms ridgeline 28 nosler or weatherby weathermark lt in 300 wby mag. Fast forward to 2014, and the Nosler Ammunition Company finally puts its name to a brand new hunting cartridge, called the 26 Nosler. HUGE differences. The powder capacity of the new .28 Nosler is virtually the same as that of the 6.5 STW, .26 Nosler, and 7mm STW. The Nosler Ammunition Company is a family business, started by John A. Nosler in 1948 and today is headed by his son, Bob Nosler. Joined: Tue May 12, 2009 12:18 pm Posts: 1352 Location: MOLALLA, OR My 26 Nosler brass came the other day so I mocked up a couple of rounds. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk . The 22, 26, 27, 28, 30, and 32 Noslers. Recoil aside what is the best for medium to large sized game? The more arteries and blood vessels opened, the faster blood is drained from the animal's cardiopulmonary system and the faster its loses consciousness. The 160-grain factory loads leave the muzzle at 3,300 feet per second and, when sighted in at 200 yards, the bullet is only 14.9 inches low at 400 yards. The 28 Nosler. Pack content. That an important factor should be thought about bullet selection. This is because the 7mm platform naturally has a better ballistic coefficient which results in better long-distance accuracy and less bullet drop and wind drift. The company took the smoking fast 6.5mm cartridge and necked it up to 7mm. Choose your bullet based on its terminal performance design plus your target animal (large or small, thick hided and heavily muscled or slight.) 28 nosler vs 300 wby mag. magnum cartridges and bullets of similar weight. Think Swift A-Frame, Federal Trophy Bonded Bear Claw and Terminal Ascent, etc. 28 Nosler Load Data; 300 AAC Blackout Load Data; 30-30 Winchester Load Data; 30/40 Krag Load Data; 308 Marlin Express Load Data; 300 Savage Load Data; 308 Winchester Load Data ; 30 Thompson Center Load Data; 30-06 Springfield Load Data; 300 Ruger Compact Magnum (RCM) Load Data; 308 Norma Magnum Load Data; 30-06 Springfield Ackley Improved Load Data; 300 Rem Short Action Ultra … JimP Veteran member. The 290-yard zero still holds 150-yard peak trajectory to under 4 inches. The 26 Nosler has a new big brother, the 28 Nosler. The 28 Nosler is running over 100gr of water. In 2014 Nosler introduced the flat-shooting .26 Nosler, following it up in 2015 with the .28 Nosler (7mm) that was based on the .26 case but necked accordingly. The ballistics keep the round it effective to over 1000 meters, while the recoil is light and manageable. We’ll explain exactly what the two rounds are best suited for, as well as why they are so popular with hunters. nvbroncrider Post subject: Re: .270Weatherby VS .27 Nosler. Nosler Liberty 48 28 Nosler 26" Bonecollector Veteran member. The 26 Nosler looks like a good option that I imagine would outperform the 6.5 PRC while not being miserable to target shoot like a 30 cal magnum would be. Those that are blunt and squat with low B.C. Jun 13, 2018 264 133 Walnut Creek, Ca. Reloading the 28 is also not inexpensive. But if you shot a 142-grain .284 bullet in the 28 Nosler, it's recoil would match that of the 26 Nosler pushing that bullet weight. PX Member. Here are 280 AIs loaded with Nosler Accubonds and Barnes TSX, two solid options for big game. Mar 20, 2020 #2 I don't own one YET, but I do own the browning in another caliber. It’s running high pressure and using a 28” barrel. mr.big . Apr 9, 2017 - Explore none's board "28 Nosler" on Pinterest. When it comes to comparing the two Nosler rounds, it comes down to the intended game. A close cousin of the 26 Nosler, 28 Nosler is a larger, more powerful round. Given the same 150-grain AccuBond bullet only drops 28-inches at 500 yards, it’s safe to say they might have done so with an extraordinary flat-shooting option. The cartridge was submitted to SAAMI in June, 2013. A side-by-side comparison of the .270 Winchester vs. .27 Nosler vs. .277 Sig Fury. was when it first rolled out onto the market in 1925. Case Design: Based on the 404 Jeffrey Same case as the 30 Nosler When compared to the 28 Nosler, the 27 Nosler has a longer neck and a shorter length to the shoulder to prevent the 28 from being chambered in the 27. Joined Apr 15, 2020 Messages 2. This rig has accounted for whitetails, mule deer, elk, Dall's sheep and more. Add to Wishlist . You can join the Ron Spomer Outdoors community on Patreon. I have found the Barnes LRX, TTXXX, the Nosler LR Accubonds are better choices for hunting. The 26 Nosler (H2O capacity 93-grains) would be next in line, and then the 28 Nosler with similar H2O capacity as the 26 Nosler, but the option to drive heavier bullets. Hunting. The larger the fist and the more energy it packs, the better the odds for hurting the opponent. Compare these rounds in the charts below. The 6.5 Creedmoor is a close second, followed by the .26 Nosler. The 27 Nosler has a long leade for sleek, high BC, long ogive, ABLR and RDF style bullets. We hunters tend to fixate on rifles and "calibers," (meaning cartridges) as if they make a big difference. A close cousin of the 26 Nosler, 28 Nosler is a larger, more powerful round. When filled to the brim, the .28 Nosler case holds 100.7 grains of water versus 99.6 grains for 7mm STW cases made by Remington and 100.2 grains for those from Federal. The three Elevation columns show drop in inches, Minutes of Angle, and Milradians. The 26 Nosler cartridge is really sensitive to minor changes in loads, so finding the right load that consistently shoots well can be really challenging. And animals can run a long way in seconds. Thread starter Elk Larry; Start date Apr 15, 2020; Apr 15, 2020 #1 E. Elk Larry Newbie. As an … While the 26 Nosler and the 28 Nosler share the same cartridge case dimensions, the 30 Nosler has a slightly shorter length to the shoulder dimension than the 26 Nosler and the 28 Nosler, and the 33 Nosler has a shorter shoulder dimension yet than that of the 30 Nosler. The 28 Nosler is running over 100gr of water. Bullets, baby, bullets. I´ve read everywhere that the 26 Nosler is a terrible barrel burner, how much more barrel life should I expect from a 28 compared to the 26?? It is, however, critical for powering the control unit -- the brain. 500-600 round barrel life." He started his company over 50 years ago to make a better bullet because he wasn’t satisfied with what was on the market. None are especially brutal kickers, but the one with the most powder and heaviest bullet will generate the most kick and downrange energy. An aerodynamically efficient, high B.C. Loaded the 129LRAB to OAL of 3.47", that puts the top of the boat tail at the bottom of the neck. Since then, the 26 Nosler® has achieved such renowned success that adding another member to the cartridge family became an obvious decision. Copyright Ron Spomer Outdoors © document.write(new Date().getFullYear()) Required fields are marked *. My friend bought the 28 Nosler in the Liberty and he likes how it shoots. Bolt Action Rifles M. Mykeys Private. Kade, The 280 AI, 26 Nosler, 28 Nosler? Most often bullets kill by hemorrhaging. GregW. Let’s look at some of the specifics: Also interesting to note, because of the light weight of the bullet, a 10 mph crosswind will produce 14 ½ inches of drift at 500 yards. This is a barrel of Barnes TSX bullets at the manufacturing plant. I know they are similar in ballistics what do you guys think about these two cartridges head to head? Campfire 'Bwana. Hunting. Choose your rifle based on handling characteristics and performance (weight, length, balance, cycling, precision.) Aim small. . More Guns. At the same tick, it also is a larger-diameter bullet than some of the more popular modern options—say the 6.5 Creedmoor. A monolithic bullet like the copper, hollow-nosed Barnes TTSX that retains most of it's mass upon impact will penetrate farther than a bullet that loses mass due to fragmentation, lead, erosion, or jacket separation. I know they are similar in ballistics what do you guys think about these two cartridges head to head? Again, both seen like great options but I want this to be a hunting rig, as I've got a rifle for shooting steel. 28 nosler and 280AI are two completely different animals. I fear too many of us assume bullets are like the fists of a heavyweight boxer. 7mm Magnum Showdown: 7mm Rem. The .26 Nosler cartridge was designed to take advantage of the inherently accurate and high B.C. Sipe said the .28 Nosler is by far the most popular. Thinking about either the Christensen arms ridgeline 28 nosler or weatherby weathermark lt in 300 wby mag. The formal launch took place at the 2014 SHOT Show in addition to Nosler’s new platform rifle, the Patriot, which is chambered in 26 Nosler and built on the company's well-reputed M48 action. SAAMI maximum overall cartridge length … This makes for a superb Maximum Point Blank Range set up. In 2016 the .30 Nosler was announced, and the latest cartridge to join the Nosler line is the .33 Nosler. Rebating the rim to 0.534 inch simplifies the production of rifle bolts since the rims of Holland & Holland-style belted magnums, such as the 7mm Remington … (This is directly from the guys at Nosler and from my dad’s experience.) Yes, to a degree wider bullets, heavier bullets, and faster bullets are a safer bet for clean kills than are narrower, lighter, slower bullets. I expanded the neck with a 7mm … The 260 Rem AI looked good too but I don't really want to go through having to fire form brass and it looked like I'd have to have a custom rifle built for it. I've finally decided to go elk hunting in Colorado this fall just need to figure out what gun to buy yet. Various bonded and hybrid bullets with lead or titanium shanks behind hollow copper or bonded lead noses can penetrate as well as the Barnes, too. Survival . The ballistics allow the round to travel fast and flat with the knockdown power to take down the largest game in North America. .648 in the 175-grain .284 platform, .625 in the 142-grain .264 caliber) will keep more than 1,500 f-p to 600 yards. But if big game is your target, nothing takes down big game like 28 Nosler. Miss small. Further, that when coupled with the Nosler Long Range AccuBond it holds on to energy and speed at long distances. Dec 26, 2019 #2 Lots of questions before a answer could be given. In my opinion Berger bullets are better target bullets than hunting bullets. Thread starter Mykeys; Start date Dec 26, 2019; Forums. 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